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		<title>Comment on Robin Hood in Reverse by dj anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/05/23/crone/#comment-2471</link>
		<dc:creator>dj anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robin Hood STOLE from the rich and gave to the poor. No one is using weapons or force to take money or hiding in the woods afterward, so I don&#039;t care for the inflammatory analogy used.  

While I&#039;m a Democrat and against this tax reform, I&#039;m not going to play the hypocrite and pretend the Democratic Party, our party, which has been in complete power over NC for a century didn&#039;t also put burden on the poor and middle class via taxes. 

Every cent of sales tax is regressive, hitting the little guy the hardest. The 3% sales tax was installed in 1935 by Democrats, increased by Democratic Governor Scott in 1971, and democrats allowed cities to double the sales tax. 

So, we now become hypocrites by pointing fingers at Republicans as being the anti-Robin Hood after it was us, we Democrats who added 8 cent tax on the dollar cup of coffee I buy the fast-food-corner bum in the first place. Democrats were hardly Robin Hoods as our politicians became rich and powerful, had our roads paved, and family employed out of Raleigh. 

We should be a bit humble now, realizing how little progressive action we took while in action those hundred years. How much better do we think we are? 

Let&#039;s us this moment to reflect and decide on better means of taxation to propose to get back into power. 

Let&#039;s do away with the sales tax altogether and other regressive taxes and fees, such as utilities getting &quot;hook up fees&quot; added before any product is used instead of a minimum charge. Let&#039;s do away with state withholding taxes, so those involved with civil disobedience can have some real power, and we can set an example for the federal level on giving power to the people. 

In any case, let&#039;s Democrats stop pretending to be standing on higher moral ground as if we were so perfect and good. We were not and that is why we are out of power. Let&#039;s use this Republican moment to look at ourselves for what we have been. What do we want to be, to do, when next in power? 

We can&#039;t imply in any way that we Democrats were &quot;Robin Hood&quot; when we were taking from the people with both fists while using the power of the law to do it. Who do we think we were? We can see the enemy now, and it was us. The Republicans are us, just more so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin Hood STOLE from the rich and gave to the poor. No one is using weapons or force to take money or hiding in the woods afterward, so I don&#8217;t care for the inflammatory analogy used.  </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m a Democrat and against this tax reform, I&#8217;m not going to play the hypocrite and pretend the Democratic Party, our party, which has been in complete power over NC for a century didn&#8217;t also put burden on the poor and middle class via taxes. </p>
<p>Every cent of sales tax is regressive, hitting the little guy the hardest. The 3% sales tax was installed in 1935 by Democrats, increased by Democratic Governor Scott in 1971, and democrats allowed cities to double the sales tax. </p>
<p>So, we now become hypocrites by pointing fingers at Republicans as being the anti-Robin Hood after it was us, we Democrats who added 8 cent tax on the dollar cup of coffee I buy the fast-food-corner bum in the first place. Democrats were hardly Robin Hoods as our politicians became rich and powerful, had our roads paved, and family employed out of Raleigh. </p>
<p>We should be a bit humble now, realizing how little progressive action we took while in action those hundred years. How much better do we think we are? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s us this moment to reflect and decide on better means of taxation to propose to get back into power. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do away with the sales tax altogether and other regressive taxes and fees, such as utilities getting &#8220;hook up fees&#8221; added before any product is used instead of a minimum charge. Let&#8217;s do away with state withholding taxes, so those involved with civil disobedience can have some real power, and we can set an example for the federal level on giving power to the people. </p>
<p>In any case, let&#8217;s Democrats stop pretending to be standing on higher moral ground as if we were so perfect and good. We were not and that is why we are out of power. Let&#8217;s use this Republican moment to look at ourselves for what we have been. What do we want to be, to do, when next in power? </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t imply in any way that we Democrats were &#8220;Robin Hood&#8221; when we were taking from the people with both fists while using the power of the law to do it. Who do we think we were? We can see the enemy now, and it was us. The Republicans are us, just more so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The tea party crazy train speeds up in Raleigh by Penny Sandrock</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/05/09/the-tea-party-crazy-train-speeds-up-in-raleigh/#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny Sandrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 14:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look out North Carolina, by the time the Republicans in the legislature are finished with us,, we will look and act just like South Carolina. The tea party is alive and spreading destruction all over our beautiful clean state!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look out North Carolina, by the time the Republicans in the legislature are finished with us,, we will look and act just like South Carolina. The tea party is alive and spreading destruction all over our beautiful clean state!</p>
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		<title>Comment on NC Moving Forward by dj anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/05/09/nc-moving-forward/#comment-2352</link>
		<dc:creator>dj anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 21:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom looks back before looking forward:

1795 - first public university in 1795, financed in part by a lottery

 post revolution -- tolls funded the building of more than 500 miles of plank roads.

1856 -North Carolina railroad  (a public/private enterprise)

1921 - 50 million dollar road bond issue to build 5,500 miles of roads.

1949 -  200 million dollars in road bonds for farm-to-market roads. 

2000  - 3.1 billion dollar higher education bond package passed

Tom points out our status today:
Today - $100 billion dollars.(needed for) deferred maintenance and growing infrastructure needs in transportation, water and sewer, public buildings like schools, communications, energy and main street revitalization

today - our unemployment rate is still 8.9 percent 

today - interest rates...never been cheaper
 
Reminder: every billion dollars spent in construction creates 28,000 jobs.

That&#039;s Tom&#039;s challenge. Why did I outline it? A good, persuasive pitch has to be reflected upon. 

I could ask if $35,000 + interest create more than one job, done otherwise, say by the controversial government incentives for desired corporate interests to move to NC? But then, infrastructure needs would remain. 

Capitalism does seem to be based on &#039;grow or die&#039; concepts, as does borrowing and paying back loans. Is that realistic in the day of climate change? 

I do question the continued long term investment in ever more land paved over in more roads for more cars to drive more miles so people can live farther from their jobs. Is this our model for the future?

Also, on the green side of things, what is the optimal population of NC and is anyone considering controlling our growth? Look at Wake County commissioners allowing water, sewer, building permits that outrace the infrastructure leaving schools, hospitals, jails, emergency services struggling. 

I would question specific spending such as the reasoning and pay-off of the expensive replacing of otherwise structurally sound bridges that lack pull off lanes or cloverleafs that slow merging traffic, and I don&#039;t support the &quot;main street&quot; expenditures nor the light rail as presented. 

I do support funding for the public schools and community colleges and reforms of them. I&#039;m swayed by Tom&#039;s message and say let&#039;s work out the detalis of what the majority of us are willing to go into debt for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom looks back before looking forward:</p>
<p>1795 &#8211; first public university in 1795, financed in part by a lottery</p>
<p> post revolution &#8212; tolls funded the building of more than 500 miles of plank roads.</p>
<p>1856 -North Carolina railroad  (a public/private enterprise)</p>
<p>1921 &#8211; 50 million dollar road bond issue to build 5,500 miles of roads.</p>
<p>1949 &#8211;  200 million dollars in road bonds for farm-to-market roads. </p>
<p>2000  &#8211; 3.1 billion dollar higher education bond package passed</p>
<p>Tom points out our status today:<br />
Today &#8211; $100 billion dollars.(needed for) deferred maintenance and growing infrastructure needs in transportation, water and sewer, public buildings like schools, communications, energy and main street revitalization</p>
<p>today &#8211; our unemployment rate is still 8.9 percent </p>
<p>today &#8211; interest rates&#8230;never been cheaper</p>
<p>Reminder: every billion dollars spent in construction creates 28,000 jobs.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Tom&#8217;s challenge. Why did I outline it? A good, persuasive pitch has to be reflected upon. </p>
<p>I could ask if $35,000 + interest create more than one job, done otherwise, say by the controversial government incentives for desired corporate interests to move to NC? But then, infrastructure needs would remain. </p>
<p>Capitalism does seem to be based on &#8216;grow or die&#8217; concepts, as does borrowing and paying back loans. Is that realistic in the day of climate change? </p>
<p>I do question the continued long term investment in ever more land paved over in more roads for more cars to drive more miles so people can live farther from their jobs. Is this our model for the future?</p>
<p>Also, on the green side of things, what is the optimal population of NC and is anyone considering controlling our growth? Look at Wake County commissioners allowing water, sewer, building permits that outrace the infrastructure leaving schools, hospitals, jails, emergency services struggling. </p>
<p>I would question specific spending such as the reasoning and pay-off of the expensive replacing of otherwise structurally sound bridges that lack pull off lanes or cloverleafs that slow merging traffic, and I don&#8217;t support the &#8220;main street&#8221; expenditures nor the light rail as presented. </p>
<p>I do support funding for the public schools and community colleges and reforms of them. I&#8217;m swayed by Tom&#8217;s message and say let&#8217;s work out the detalis of what the majority of us are willing to go into debt for.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Healthcare Costs: What You Can Do To Make A Difference by dj anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/05/06/healthcare-costs-what-you-can-do-to-make-a-difference/#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator>dj anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Finally, increasing the supply of family physicians has been shown to reduce healthcare costs and increase quality, both in studies in the United States and abroad.&quot; 

I like the thought, but tell me, how can I do that one?  

This is a fine blog with clear, concise steps we could take, and should take to cut health care costs. 

Why not include quitting smoking, moderating drinking, and developing positive relations with others, including having a loving dog from the pound? Mayo Clinic says dogs are life savers, lowering blood pressure for one, and the dog will help your legs take those walks and get your eyes off the TV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Finally, increasing the supply of family physicians has been shown to reduce healthcare costs and increase quality, both in studies in the United States and abroad.&#8221; </p>
<p>I like the thought, but tell me, how can I do that one?  </p>
<p>This is a fine blog with clear, concise steps we could take, and should take to cut health care costs. </p>
<p>Why not include quitting smoking, moderating drinking, and developing positive relations with others, including having a loving dog from the pound? Mayo Clinic says dogs are life savers, lowering blood pressure for one, and the dog will help your legs take those walks and get your eyes off the TV.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public notices need to be where the public notices by md wood</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/04/30/public-notices-need-to-be-where-the-public-notices/#comment-2326</link>
		<dc:creator>md wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 12:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ms. Grace doesn&#039;t seem to realize that Public Notice advertisements in local newspapers are already &quot;obscure&quot; and &quot;hidden from plain sight&quot;. In most communities you are lucky if the newspaper is received by 25% of the population and of that a tiny percentage bother with the classified section. Requiring government and corporate entities to place ads in this section (at premium rates) amounts to little more than government subsidies for these private companies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Grace doesn&#8217;t seem to realize that Public Notice advertisements in local newspapers are already &#8220;obscure&#8221; and &#8220;hidden from plain sight&#8221;. In most communities you are lucky if the newspaper is received by 25% of the population and of that a tiny percentage bother with the classified section. Requiring government and corporate entities to place ads in this section (at premium rates) amounts to little more than government subsidies for these private companies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Governor Should Be Mr. Fix-It by dj anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/04/26/governor-should-be-mr-fix-it/#comment-2321</link>
		<dc:creator>dj anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 02:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don’t you use this “bamboozle” premise to write a column on the Republican/ALEC/Duke Energy controlled NC General Assembly? Rip asked.

Would be interesting to see the contributions to each member of the house and senate, plus Governor, by those, and other organizations. Who&#039;s going to write the blog? I know questions always abound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don’t you use this “bamboozle” premise to write a column on the Republican/ALEC/Duke Energy controlled NC General Assembly? Rip asked.</p>
<p>Would be interesting to see the contributions to each member of the house and senate, plus Governor, by those, and other organizations. Who&#8217;s going to write the blog? I know questions always abound.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tax Reform Requires Wisdom and Courage by Ricky Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/05/02/tax-reform-requires-wisdom-and-courage/#comment-2306</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 13:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Tax realignment&quot; might be more accurate than the cliche-ish &quot;tax reform&quot;. Sounds at least on the surface that we aren&#039;t an order of magnitude different than other states regarding overall taxes; we just collect a different way.  In our present day world of 10 second sound bytes and 140 character tweets, few people do any detailed analysis, so tax realignment substantially simplifies comparisons for job creating employers to compare us to other states.  That makes a lot of sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tax realignment&#8221; might be more accurate than the cliche-ish &#8220;tax reform&#8221;. Sounds at least on the surface that we aren&#8217;t an order of magnitude different than other states regarding overall taxes; we just collect a different way.  In our present day world of 10 second sound bytes and 140 character tweets, few people do any detailed analysis, so tax realignment substantially simplifies comparisons for job creating employers to compare us to other states.  That makes a lot of sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something Must Change to Improve Our Economy by Thurman Hubbard</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/04/24/something-must-change-to-improve-our-economy/#comment-2289</link>
		<dc:creator>Thurman Hubbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 19:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is an excellent idea many years overdue. The only thing missing is the part where we discover that the owner/employer class actually prefers all this unemployment because it keeps wages down and workers willing to tolerate almost anything and be grateful they even have jobs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is an excellent idea many years overdue. The only thing missing is the part where we discover that the owner/employer class actually prefers all this unemployment because it keeps wages down and workers willing to tolerate almost anything and be grateful they even have jobs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In the Absence of Argument by dj anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/05/02/in-the-absence-of-argument/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>dj anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 19:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How logically, calmly John&#039;s blog calls for the same civil discourse from Democrats! This is politics, and its use and abuse of the public mind. 

The Democrats ran themselves out of power after over a hundred years. The mindset of those advising and leading the party remind fixed and in place. The Democrats need to clean house behind the scenes now. Those rats won&#039;t leave the barn willingly, and where are we to find bright, high minded replacements with a two-party mindset? Do those people even exist in public life?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How logically, calmly John&#8217;s blog calls for the same civil discourse from Democrats! This is politics, and its use and abuse of the public mind. </p>
<p>The Democrats ran themselves out of power after over a hundred years. The mindset of those advising and leading the party remind fixed and in place. The Democrats need to clean house behind the scenes now. Those rats won&#8217;t leave the barn willingly, and where are we to find bright, high minded replacements with a two-party mindset? Do those people even exist in public life?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tax Reform Requires Wisdom and Courage by dj anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ncspin.com/2013/05/02/tax-reform-requires-wisdom-and-courage/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>dj anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom says we need reform, applauds the House and Senate for trying, but warns how difficult the task is. Tom is so right. 

It isn&#039;t impossible to change. 

As an ordinary citizen I can agree with doing away with charity deductions &amp; other non-profit protections. I&#039;m against sales tax altogether, but there has to be a basic deduction for individuals to protect the poor. I&#039;m for smaller, more efficient government, with more accountability &amp; transparency. 

How do we claim fairness in business taxation when on the one hand we give huge tax breaks to get desired industries, and on the other complain of breaks? 

Great changes would be easier in a great economy, when the disruptions would be less damaging, but then there is no motivation when things are easy. No, it needs to be done now, during a time of economic need, and during the first months after election, long before the next election. 

Each of us surely has an unworkable, but &quot;ideal&quot; tax concept, so the question is how do we find the proper &quot;compromise&quot; Tom alludes to in his blog? I don&#039;t know. I just get one vote now and then, and comment on here, which seem to rarely appear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom says we need reform, applauds the House and Senate for trying, but warns how difficult the task is. Tom is so right. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t impossible to change. </p>
<p>As an ordinary citizen I can agree with doing away with charity deductions &amp; other non-profit protections. I&#8217;m against sales tax altogether, but there has to be a basic deduction for individuals to protect the poor. I&#8217;m for smaller, more efficient government, with more accountability &amp; transparency. </p>
<p>How do we claim fairness in business taxation when on the one hand we give huge tax breaks to get desired industries, and on the other complain of breaks? </p>
<p>Great changes would be easier in a great economy, when the disruptions would be less damaging, but then there is no motivation when things are easy. No, it needs to be done now, during a time of economic need, and during the first months after election, long before the next election. </p>
<p>Each of us surely has an unworkable, but &#8220;ideal&#8221; tax concept, so the question is how do we find the proper &#8220;compromise&#8221; Tom alludes to in his blog? I don&#8217;t know. I just get one vote now and then, and comment on here, which seem to rarely appear.</p>
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